Current meta and what counters what

Balance Discussion
#1

Hi Folks,

I´m Thixo and here are some of my observations from the current meta and decks.
Please feel free to discuss my oberservations with yous :slight_smile:

From what I have seen good decks are:

Red Combat by xged
Red Rush by happyjo
Yellow Tempo by ESofDawn
Yellow Rush by Donpork
Midrange Green by Donpork
Blue/Green
Blue/Red Bargain
Green/Yellow Sacrifise
Green/Red Crackthorn

Here is a table which decks counter others (according to my opinion)
0/0.5 = even/very close
+1/-1 = moderate advantage/disadvantage
+2/-2 = significant advantage/disadvantage
+3/-3 = big advantage/disadvantage

Opponent /
You		 R Com R Rush Y Tempo Y Rush G Mid B/G Jump B/R Bargain G/Y Sac G/R Crackthorn
R Com X +2 +1 +2 -3 -0.5 -1 +1.5 -1.5
R Rush -2 X +1 0 -3 0 +1 +2 0
Y Tempo -1 -1 X -2 +2 +0.5 +0.5 0 +1
Y Rush -2 0 +2 X -3 0 +1 +2 0
G Mid +3 +3 -2 +3 X -0.5 -1 -2 -0.5
B/G Jump +0.5 0 -0.5 0 +0.5 X +0.5 +0.5 -0.5
B/R Bargain +1 -1 -0.5 -1 +1 -0.5 X -0.5 +0.5
G/Y Sac -1.5 -2 0 -2 +2 -0.5 +0.5 X +0.5
G/R Crackthorn +1.5 0 -1 0 +0.5 +0.5 -0.5 -0.5 X

Greetings
Thixo

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#2

Cross table would be better.

R Combat vs:
R Rush (+2)
Y Tempo (+0.5)
Y Rush (+2)
G Mid (-3)
BG Jump (-0.5)
BR Bargain (-0.5)
GY Sacrifise (+1)
GR Crackthorn (-1)

x - advantage
+3 - big advantage (4:1 win ratio)
+2 - significant advantage (3:1 win ratio)
+1 - moderate advantage (2:1 win ratio)
+0.5 - small advantage (1.5:1 win ratio)
0 - even (1:1 win ratio)
(…and all in between)

#3

Thanks for the advise. I already implemented it.

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#4

I wonder what the sample size is.

Also, you can tech cards in which tends to make things more complicated. For example, I teched my Crackthorn Deck with Grim Guards which massively increases the winrate against Rush (50/50 vs Green Rush, 80/20 vs Red Rush (small sample size for me personally, as I lost the matchup once out of 5 battles to some ridiculous draws involving Gift of Steel), and YRush is about 70/30) but does also obviously make some matchups worse, including the mirror.

#5

Of course there is always the possibility to tech against certain matchups. This chart should more or less just show which decks are generally good against others.
As I mentioned above I would be happy to discuss my opinions. These are just my obervetions with a limited sample size. Is there a page to get data?

#6

You wrote numbers from the perspective of columns instead of rows which is less intuitive to me. (I updated my previous replay)

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#7

You should make this into a guide on the hub. It’s amazingly helpful. You could even link it to the “archetypical” deck for each one, just as an example

#8

I agree with Xged, perspective from row is more usual.

#9

I changed the rows and clolums. I also added some links to decks I find good.
Unfortunatelly as a new member I cant´t make post with more than 5 links.

Thats why I added the last 4 decks here. (I´ll change it as soon as I´m allowed to)

Blue/Green Jump by xged
Blue/Red Bargain by Donpork
Green/Yellow Sacrifise by xged
Green/Red Crackthorn by Minocaro